WAR Vs AoC: The Comparison
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WARHAMMER: Age of Reckoning
WAR is an upcoming MMORPG based on Games Workshop's popular Warhammer fantasy war game. Players must choose a realm(order or chaos). Within each allegiance there are 3 races. The basis of WAR is the conflict between the two sides. This game is based on Realm vs. Realm™ (RvR) game play where players of one side fight against the players of another. WAR provides a fully-realized PvE and RvR experience for players to enjoy. This will include plenty of high-end content for both, including dungeons and Public Quests.
Age of Conan
Age of Conan
Age of Conan is a MMO based on the Conan fantasy license originally created by the famed author Robert E. Howard. Set in 10.000 BC in the world of Hyboria.  You can engage in guild warfare and embark on challenging quests which all stay true to the original written works by Robert E. Howard
WAR Developer
Mythic is a company who has developed other MMORPGs including Dark Age of Camelot. Mythic is currently owned by Electronic Arts inc (EA). EA has been involved with several MMORPGs including Ultima Online and Hellgate: London . Other online titles include Spellbinder: The Nexus Conflict, Aliens Online, Starship Troopers: Battlespace, Silent Death Online, Rolemaster: Magestorm, Darkness Falls, Darkness Falls: The Crusade, Splatterball, Godzilla Online and Dragon's Gate
AoC Developer
Age of Conan is co-published by Funcom and Eidos. Eidos is known for publishing titles such as Tomb Raider and Hitman, while Funcom has extensive experience in the MMORPG field with the game Anarchy Online.
WAR Specs
Game Status: Closed Beta (Check Preorder Status!)
Release date: September 18th 2008
System requirements: (8-17-08)
For Windows XP
· 2.5 GHz P4 (single core) processor or equivalent
· 1 Gigabyte RAM
· A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
· At least 15 GB of hard drive space

For Windows VISTA
· 2.5 GHz P4 processor or equivalent
· 2 Gigabyte RAM
· A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
· At least 15 GB of hard drive space

Supported Video Cards
ATI Radeon(TM) series
· 9500, 9600, 9800
· X300, X600, X700, X800, X850
· X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900, X1950
· 2400, 2600, 2900,
· 3650, 3850, 3870
· 4850, 4870

NVIDIA GeForce series
· FX 5900, FX 5950
· 6600, 6800,
· 7600, 7800, 7900, 7950
· 8400, 8500, 8600, 8800
· 9400, 9500, 9600, 9800
· GTX 260, GTX 280

Intel(R) Extreme Graphics
· GMA X4500

Laptop versions of these chipsets may work, but may run comparatively slowly. Standalone cards that are installed in vanilla PCI slots (not PCIe or PCIx or AGP), such as some GeForce FX variants, will perform poorly. Integrated chipsets such as the ATI Xpress and the NVIDIA TurboCache variants will have low settings selected, but should run satisfactorily.

Please note that attempting to play the game using video hardware that isn’t listed above may result in reduced performance, graphical issues or cause the game to not run at all.

The NVIDIA GeForce FX series is unsupported under Vista.
Platform: PC Only
Cost: Check Price
Subscription: Monthly subscription fee, 1st 30 days are free
Rating: Teen
European Distribution: Yes (German, Italian, Spanish, and French).
Game Cards: Not Likely at this time
Customizable User interface: Yes
AoC Specs
Game Status: Closed Beta (Check Preorder Status!)
Release Date: Released May 19th 2008
System requirements: (2-18-08)
OS: Windows Vista/XP
Processor: 3GHz Pentium IV
Video Card: Shader Model 2.0 and 128MB RAM: NVIDIA GeForce 5800 or ATI 9800

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz (E6600) or better
Vdeo Card: NVIDIA GeForce 7950GX2 or better
RAM: 2GB or more

Enhanced for: 64-bit processors, multi-core
Supports Parental Controls on Windows Vista

Platform: PC development initially
Cost: $49 for game client, ~$14.99/month for subscription
Subscription: Monthly subscription fee, 1st 30 days are free
Rating: Mature ( Graphic violence, Partial nudity)
The censorship is based on the dvd key, german version is cut, you will see blood, but no fatalities like chopping heads and limbs off. US version will be uncut
European Distribution: Yes (German, French, Spanish, English)
There will be European and US servers. If you buy a US version of the game, you can only join on US servers, if you buy a Eu version (UK, german, french, spanish), you can join any Eu server. You could buy a european version of the game in the US, but then you can only join EU servers and will get higher pings and the timewindow for sieging will be late night/early morning for you.
Game Cards: Yes
Customizable User interface: Yes
WAR Background
When the first reports of the Chaos Plague begin to appear in the fringe settlements of the Empire, they are dismissed as fanciful tales conjured to frighten away unwanted visitors. When the plague appears in the streets of Altdorf, however, the situation changes completely. By the time the Emperor issues his first quarantine order, the vile disease has already spread across most of his lands. The Empire's doctors work day and night to combat the sickness, but the plague defies all efforts at a cure.

Victims of the Chaos Plague first experience tiredness, aching, soreness and extreme thirst. Bouts of nausea follow, but it takes nearly a month to reach the final stages of the disease. It is only then that the horrific nature of the plague is made clear; those unfortunate souls who have experienced plague symptoms for three to four weeks begin to change, transforming into fiendish Chaos mutants that savagely attack any living creature that they see. Those lucky enough to avoid contracting the plague are often killed by the savage monsters spawned from it.

With each passing month, the death toll mounts. Quarantines and martial law fail to slow the spread of the disease, and paranoid fear grips every village and town within the Empire's borders. Militiamen in plague-wracked cities are forced to combat the hordes of Chaos mutants roaming their streets, leaving their walls undefended against threats from without. Emboldened gangs of brigands roam the countryside, looting, burning and killing at will. The scope of the tragedy is almost unparalleled in the history of the Empire, but the Chaos Plague is merely a precursor to a much greater evil yet to come.

AoC Background
Conan is a fantasy character created by author Robert E. Howard. Howard wrote a series of stories during the 1930's which took place in the fictional world of Hyboria, where the protagonist was a mighty and fearsome barbarian called Conan. The Howard stories all follows Conan’s life as he evolves from a young warrior and thief to finally become king of Aquilonia, the mightiest nation of Hyboria.

In this game there are two realms, six armies, and three battlefronts. Each realm is comprised of a loose alliance of armies that have formed out of circumstance - the Alliance of Order (Dwarfs, High Elves, and the Empire) and the Armies of Destruction (Greenskins, Dark Elves, and Chaos). Everything you do in WAR furthers the cause of your army and thus your realm.

Realm vs. Realm™ combat in WAR centers around the above armies and takes place on one of three fronts where ancient foes battle one another – Dwarfs vs. Greenskins, High Elf vs. Dark Elf, and Empire vs. Chaos humans. Players begin the game fighting their racial enemy, but are later free to journey to other battlefronts to help their allies in the larger struggle.

A particular dark elf, for example, can work with allies to invade the capital cities of the Empire, high elves, or the dwarfs. That same dark elf can choose instead to defend his own lands or those belonging to his Greenskin or Chaos "allies." You cannot make characters on the same server for both factions (i.e. Chaos and Order on the same server)

Group size limit is currently 6 players. This could still change before launch. There also will be a mechanic to join more than one group into something similar to DAoC's battelgroups or WoW's raids, but there is currently no information on the size limit of these raids/battlegroups.

Death Penalty:
There is no experience loss at death. No corpse runs, no shadow crossing. You will respawn at the point where you are resurrected, or at a designate spawn point such as a camp or a graveyard

Combat in WAR will not be "twitch-based", that is to say you will not manually aim the exact location where you want your spells, shots or melee blows to hit. Your attack speed will be based off your character's stats, weapon and what abilities you use, like most MMORPGs. There is an auto-attack function, but the vast majority of your damage will be from special attacks. EA Mythic has said the majority of the spells for caster classes will not be castable while moving or be instant-cast. It is unknown at this time how exactly the melee abilities will work or whether they will be based mostly on instant or mostly on weapon speed ("next swing").

Collision detection is currently implemented for enemies only, meaning you will not collide with your allies, for anti-abuse purposes (Griefers blocking doorways, preventing their allies from entering a building, etc). However, Mythic is still considering the possiblity of putting it in for both allies and enemies.

Morale abilities are powerful abilities that cost Morale when used. Morale builds up from 0% to 100% over time as long as you are in combat. There are two possibilites to gain a new morale ability: either through a common level up of your character or through a mastery tree. Morale abilites are divided into 4 different ranks. The lowest and weakest rank abilites can be used at 25% Morale, the second lowest at 50%, the third at 75% and the most powerful at 100%.

Tactics are passive abilities such as heal effectiveness or resistance increases you can only swap out of combat. Each character has a certain number of tactic slots he can fill with the tactics. Tactics can be learned at level up or gained through mastery paths.

Normal Abilities:
Normal abilites are common skills that are the same for every class. They cost Action points to use. Normal abilites can range from melee attacks to powerful spells, and are received upon level up depending on your class.

The level cap is 40.

There are 3 kinds of quests in WAR. Players willbe able to share current quests they are on

1. There are your “standard” PvE quests that occurs entirely outside of the RvR skirmish zones.

2. Then there are PvE quests that require you to ENTER an RvR-flagged area, but do not require you to kill another player to complete them.

3. Finally, there are RvR quests that require you to enter an RvR skirmish zone AND require you to kill another player (or players) to complete it. Attacking towers and keeps was Camelot’s game, WAR is focused on player combat.

If you’re involved in a Public Quest in any (positive) way, you’ll get rewarded. You will be rewarded even if you die. You earn Influence for your participation and can “spend” that on associated awards. The more you participate in a PQ, the more Influence you earn and the cooler the Influence Rewards you’ll get to choose from. When a PQ is successfully completed, those players that participated the most will also have the best chance of winning the loot dropped by the boss.

When you kill a player, there’s a chance that there will be items on the corpse. And as the killer, you will be able to loot the corpse. Said items are generated much in the same way as loot on an NPC would be. You’re not actually taking the person’s gear you just killed, but you CAN get loot for killing other players.

You will not be able to communicate with the enemy realm at any time.

The war machines from Warhammer Fantasy Battle are likely to be represented in WAR. They will play a role in both besieging and defending a keep. Keeps are, quite simply put, strongholds within the PvP areas. They may contain battlefield objectives or be a battlefield objective themselves.

Taking a keep will require you to lay siege to it and eventually breach its defenses and slay the defenders. What exactly triggers the capturing is unknown at this point. For taking a keep, you may use siege weapons to get access to the keep. The actual details of these are unkown, as well.

Only guilds will be able to claim keeps. It is unkown what benefits this will have for the guild or the keep, but the guild will presumably be able to upgrade the keep somehow or receive a warning when it is under attack. There also might be cosmetic things like the guild's banenr floating from the top of the keep.

Mounted combat will not be in the game at release. It is a possible addition for the future, though.
Age of Conan will feature a limited single-player portion at the start of the game. Here you advance through a deep and involving story, where the focus is on you, your character and your place in the world. After a while you will start meeting other players, but you will be able to switch between single-player and multiplayer during the first twenty levels of your character's life. After that, its all massively multiplayer.

The level cap is 80. Forty normal skill levels (standard MMORPG XP) and forty different player-versus-player levels . You gain PvP levels by fighting battles with other players

Fighting between players is consensual because it is limited to certain areas of the game world. If you want to avoid player-versus-player combat, all you have to do is avoid these areas. There are other areas to engage in player-versus-player combat. You can, for instance, pick a fight at a tavern once you get drunk enough, or you can get involved in mini-games in the arenas.

One of the key features of Age of Conan is the unique combat system, which is a huge leap forward for the genre both from a technological and a gameplay standpoint. Whereas fighting in most MMOs involves targeting by clicking something, initiating attack and then clicking a combination of icons, fighting in Age of Conan centers around something we call the Real Combat System. In this innovative approach to MMO melee combat you don't target anything directly, you actually move up to your foe and start striking your weapon in different directions in real-time, using directional keys or even a gamepad.

In ranged combat you will actually have to string your bow and aim manually from a first-person or over-the-shoulder viewpoint to strike your enemies.

Players will be able to create formations that will increase the participants damage output and defense rating, as well as giving special types of attacks. A formation will have a leader who can designate spots in the formation for players, and the players have to stand at the specific spot for the formation to reach its maximum potential. Formation combat will naturally be very useful in PvP battles, but will also play a vital role in PvE.

Battlekeeps are structures that players can build and maintain in the Border Kingdom. Throughout the Border Kingdom there is a limited amount of areas where battlekeeps can be built. Because of the limited amount of space, other guilds will most surely come and try to take it away from you or even destroy it completely through the use of siege engines such as catapults. By using collected resources such as iron, stone and wood, players can build upon these battlekeeps, constructing walls and even stables to house the cavalry. It is also possible to add computer-controlled guards to these.

Server types:
There will be rules of etiquette and a restricted naming policy on RPPVP server


* Small xp bonus for killing stuff
* 3 loot options: round robin, free for all,master looter.
* Quest items always drop for every groupmember with the quest
* Nearly all smaller caves or minidungeons (like the maze or acheronian ruins) have a hero mode (a challenging groupgame), because those dungeons are normally made for solo or minigroups.

There will be mounted combat in the game, where players can get hold of mounts such as horses and camels. You can fight from the backs of these great creatures – either with a sword or with a lance for maximum damage

* There will be a big choice of horses (5-10 in different colors)
* Differ in hitpoints, turn radius, stamina, speed
* All mounts can attack on their own and cause different damage
* Many spells can be fired from the back of a horse
* Its possible to get kicked of the horse during a fight
* The warmammoth and the rhino are nearly the same in stats, the rhino is more agile though and the warmammoth has more HP
* Mammoth and rhino are exclusiv preorder items atm
* Requirement for a mount is lvl40
* Mounts are inventory items, you can have many of them
* Currently mounts cannot be customized at release, but they will come up with something later. its unclear what a mount does, when you dismoount atm.


* Every class is able to stealth
* Different possibilites to detect a stealthed player:
- Stealth skill: raised with skillpoints
- Perception: if its higher then the stealth skill of a player, you detect him faster
- Noise: dependent of the gear you wear, the surface, the speed
- Viewcone: a stealthed player infront of you,will be detected easier
- Lighting level: easier to see a stealthed player at day
* There will be a interface which lets you see the lighting level


Anyone who is not in your group is attackable (they think about adding guildmembers to the non attack list no matter if they are in another group or solo)

There´s a pvp variation of all equipment stats

There will be a pvp ranking system which increases with pvp kills and decreases with pvp deaths

The highest ranked pvpers will be awarded with ingame items
different styles of CTF arenas, the ones we saw at CES etc were Stygian style maps, there will be more after launch

Besides CTF, there will be team annihilation

CTF battles involve battling it out with the other team in an 8 player, 4-vs.-4 format where you have 10 minutes to win the match completely, of which involves capturing the other team's flag three times before they capture yours the same number. (curse article)

There is also a Team Deathmatch type of instanced PvP, both with Ranked or Skirmish options. In Ranked matches, dying means you lose "PvP experience"

No death penalty besides loss of pvpranking and blood money. you don´t drop a tombstone when you die by another player.

See My AoC PvP Guide
Age of Conan PvP Guide: "Mama Said Knock You Out!"


* Every character can learn one crafting profession
* You can only learn one crafting profession
* Current minimum level is 40, but they think about lowering it to 20
* Crafting profs are: weaponsmith, armorsmith, alchemist, gemcutter, architekt.
* Crafting experience will only be gained through crafting quests
* Recipes will be always usable (are non consumable)
* Leveling crafting will be fast (approx. some hours)
* Nearly all items have 2 variations, crafted with normal resources and with rare. only craftable items have sockets for gems
* Sockets come in different sizes, 4 per item are usable
* Gems cant be removed, once equipped
* Most of the crafted items or even all wont have stats like strength or inteligence. they´ll have ground values.
* Crafted items without gems are not comparable with very good looted items, however they are more flexiable then looted items. they are good against opponents with special resistances or weaknesses.
* Higher quality items can only be obtained from people who are in a guild and in a guildcity crafted in special crafting places.
* Crafting works everywhere
* The crafting process is automatic and you wont lose your crafting resources in the crafting process


* 6 harvesting profs (Mining, Prospecting, Skinning, Stonecutting, Weaving, Woodcutting)
* you can learn all harvesting profs at once
* every resource has 6-8 levels (i.e. for mining: bronze, iron,...)
* chance of getting a rare resource (within level) during harvesting
* resources are displayed on the minimap
* can be found in the city zones (crafting city and border kingdoms) and rarely in the world
* there is no plan to specialze in a specific resource
* there are additional resources, dropped by specific mobs
* Gemcutter and Alchemist harvest their resources through killed mobs
* harvesting nodes are specially designed with particle effects to make it easier to notice them

There are six playable armies – Greenskins, Dwarfs, Dark Elves, High Elves, the Empire and Chaos. The Greenskins army is comprised of two separate races, Orcs and Goblins, Empire and Chaos armies are human, Dark Elves and High Elves are elves.

Greenskins (Destruction)
Black Orc
Goblin Shaman
Goblin Squig Herder

Dark Elves (Destruction)
Witch Elf
Disciple of Khaine

Chaos (Destruction)

Dwarves (Order)

High Elves (Order)
Shadow Warrior
White Lion

Empire (Order)
Bright Wizard
Warrior Priest
Witch Hunter

You don’t have to start making decisions regarding your profession until you’ve reached level five. At level 5 you pick an archetype. The archetypes are Soldier, Mage, Priest and Rogue. The classes that are available to you are determined from which archetype you choose and your race

There will be three difference races upon the launch of Age of Conan. In Age of Conan the three nations that are planned for launch are Aquilonia, Cimmeria and Stygia. Soldier
Dark Templar

Priest of Mitra
Tempest of Set


Herald of Xotli

At one point there was supposed to be prestige classes: The Crafter, the Lord, the Commander and the Master. These however have been dropped. Benefits and abilities will now go into a more open and flexible system. Each of these has extremely valuable advantages that can be used both in solo play and in team play, and each has specific skills and benefits that can make a great difference. Examples include expand groups and use special formations during combat, building cities and gathering resources.
WAR Screenshots
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